tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4234337357347181796.post1312158578406882826..comments2023-10-25T08:28:57.428-04:00Comments on Unprofessional Foul: "Team Set Me Up" - DC United Stadium Plans getting turfed outUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4234337357347181796.post-75944397856860572382008-06-28T18:26:00.000-04:002008-06-28T18:26:00.000-04:00"Read the Fisher column again."The problem is Fish..."Read the Fisher column again."<BR/><BR/>The problem is Fisher has no idea what he's talking about, and is damn fool enough to think that by opposing the soccer stadium he and his friends can make the whole place a pristine e-topia that it never was and never will be.Stanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12459194775803551721noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4234337357347181796.post-64850126255544019762008-06-28T18:25:00.000-04:002008-06-28T18:25:00.000-04:00@Mike,It's not as clear as that. Pro-stadium peop...@Mike,<BR/><BR/>It's not as clear as that. Pro-stadium people, and Bruce Johnson's bloog on WUSA9, say it's for "infrastructure"--which brings to mind things like roads and power and sewers that it is basically as city's job to provide.<BR/><BR/>What the truth is, I'm not sure we know.<BR/><BR/>On the other issue, I don't think it's ludicrous at all to think a soccer stadium could bring development. Getting the stores you want to come to the project won't be easy, and will be all the harder if you don't get something more unusual to bring people that are used to staying in Ward 2 (and the suburbs) out to Ward 8. People who support city funding 100% of the baseball stadium but not a much lower percentage of the soccer stadium project at a quarter of the cost usually come from a perspective of narrow-mindedness.Stanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12459194775803551721noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4234337357347181796.post-12172164256649048162008-06-26T23:43:00.000-04:002008-06-26T23:43:00.000-04:00About the owners refusing to pay: What the city sh...About the owners refusing to pay: What the city should really do is just close the stadium doors. If the owners won't pay rent, just don't let the team play. Would solve the problem pretty quick.Sarahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00704310493950105726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4234337357347181796.post-53754427514916978102008-06-26T15:08:00.000-04:002008-06-26T15:08:00.000-04:00@mighty: Let's go over it. MacFarlane first offer...@mighty: Let's go over it. MacFarlane first offered to pay for the stadium, if his company could build the surrounding development. When they lost the bid, he started hemming and hawing. Now, it may be that they are backpedaling some because his development business is having a tough go right now. <BR/><BR/>Read the Fisher column again. I also listened to him discuss this on the radio a few weeks ago and came up with the same opinion. <BR/><BR/>Now those pushing the stadium are currently business owners down in Anacostia, who could use anything to help them out.<BR/><BR/>Also, the other point is the amount of money. When soccer stadiums in other cities get built for $100MM, and DC United claims they need $225MM, you wonder if the end product is going to be glorious or if they need that much extra to pay everyone off in DC. <BR/><BR/>Personally, the environmentalists are going to be the first line of opposition on the stadium.MoonshineMikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06127819454547893770noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4234337357347181796.post-53908658266751990572008-06-26T15:01:00.000-04:002008-06-26T15:01:00.000-04:00@eladio: Personally, I'm not fully 100% convinced...@eladio: Personally, I'm not fully 100% convinced on the Nationals Stadium was in the right location, and I am with you on the $100K/day over the finishing. I think the Nationals are being overly petty, and they should be given a beat down.The 'stadium' in that old pic is over the S. Capital St. bridge, but in a pile of brown which I assume is dirt.MoonshineMikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06127819454547893770noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4234337357347181796.post-28270624502746228822008-06-26T14:17:00.000-04:002008-06-26T14:17:00.000-04:00I'm getting tired of billionaires asking for citiz...I'm getting tired of billionaires asking for citizens to pay for their stadiums. After all, what the crap are we paying admission for?Email us athttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06952127683665557204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4234337357347181796.post-33373883433625171402008-06-26T13:53:00.000-04:002008-06-26T13:53:00.000-04:00this blog entry is written by a person who is trul...this blog entry is written by a person who is truly misinformed about the subject.....<BR/>please do a little more research...<BR/><BR/>to say that the owner wants the city to pay is just flat out wrong...mightyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14953282586659304894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4234337357347181796.post-22676549171146371762008-06-26T11:16:00.000-04:002008-06-26T11:16:00.000-04:00The new Nats stadium also caused a stir (from a Ma...The new Nats stadium also caused a stir (from a Marc Fisher article) when the owners decided to fine the city $100,000/day, as they said the stadium was not finished by opening day 2008 as was previously agreed to. This will be going to court, as the definition of "finished" will be debated soundly. (The stadium was open and they played games on opening day, but the ownership is saying that things like their offices weren't finished by opening day; thus the stadium wasn't finished.) As everyone knows, DC's finances are completely shite to begin with, and for every $100k they have to give to the Nats owners, that's less money they can give for a new DC United stadium. <BR/><BR/>I'm still not convinced the new Nats stadium in Anacostia is a great idea, tho if that area comes back like Chinatown area did downtown after MCI/Verizon center, it might be worth it on a city/development basis. (Tho I debate whether the new downtown area is really "improved". Sure there's a bowling alley and a Gap there now, but you'd be hard pressed to find a chinese restauranat left in Chinatown.)<BR/><BR/>To say that a soccer stadium will prompt develoopment is ludicrous, in my mind. I say put the new soccer stadium where the old convention center is downtown, throw a couple no-show jobs to this Cali hustler/developer/owner, and split the cost with the city. At least that's what I'd propose if I was running this sit-down.<BR/><BR/>@Mike: Where in that image is the new Nats stadium? I know it's the other side of the river...but south of the navy yard?Eladiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02795541952284593931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4234337357347181796.post-41731247429589767712008-06-26T10:46:00.000-04:002008-06-26T10:46:00.000-04:00Wow I actually didn't know any of this. I should ...Wow I actually didn't know any of this. I should keep up with the local news more often. I remember when the Nats stadium was being built my dad was talking about the possibility of getting a new stadium for United too, but that's it.<BR/><BR/>Side note: The new Nats stadium is fantastic. Although I haven't actually been there since it's been completely finished, I had to wear steel toed boots and a hardhat when I went.Sarahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00704310493950105726noreply@blogger.com